Thursday
so Douglas Lloyd Buchholz is again posting other people's genealogy records. And they show "white" as a race. So what? Is that any different from the records in his own genealogy? Is Douglas Lloyd Buchholz so arrogant to think that he is the only one with family CULTURAL MARKERS AND SOCIAL HISTORY showing Abenaki connections?
Monday
Thursday
On Feb 18, this question was asked to Douglas LLoyd Buchholz on his Facebook page "Reinvention of the Vermont and NH Abenaki":
Jayne Cruger Does anyone know what these wannabe-abenakis actually do for a living? I mean, what it is they do to contribute to the greater good? Do they even work? When I spoke with them in the court house in July, both Mr. and Mrs. Pouliot were on disability. hmmmmm.......
Interestingly enough, in Douglas Lloyd Buchholz's response he did not admit that he himself is receiving Social Security Disability for a mental disability.
Yes indeed, what does he "do to contribute to the greater good"?
Jayne Cruger Does anyone know what these wannabe-abenakis actually do for a living? I mean, what it is they do to contribute to the greater good? Do they even work? When I spoke with them in the court house in July, both Mr. and Mrs. Pouliot were on disability. hmmmmm.......
Interestingly enough, in Douglas Lloyd Buchholz's response he did not admit that he himself is receiving Social Security Disability for a mental disability.
Yes indeed, what does he "do to contribute to the greater good"?
Saturday
FROM REINVENTION OF THE VERMONT NEW HAMPSHIRE ABENAKI SITE BY DOUGLAS LLOYD BUCHHOLZ:
Tuesday, November 17, 2009
On this "other" blog called "Abenaki Pride: Setting the Record Straight" "Anonymous" writes, "so where is Douglas Lloyd Buchholz's proof that he is Abenaki?" He points fingers at everyone else, but I have yet to see ANY document that indicates "Abenaki" posted by him about his own genealogy. So where is it Douglas? Since he did not come from an Odanak family, according to his own twisted theory, he isn't "Abenaki" either.
Douglas's responses: as he tries to explain........
Document 01: Front Side of Page. Chart hand written NOT PROOF in seemingly Ball Point pen.
Obviously this document/genealogical chart was created from "memory" NOT PROOF.. Notice that inbetween Aidrias Parker Woodward and his wife, with an arrow pointing to Parker's wife, it indicates, that his wife was allegedly a "Full-Blooded Indian". Sarah Pilsbury Sawyer and her husband Parker were brother and sister to Royal William Woodward and his wife Mary Hawley (nee: Sawyer). Royal and Mary were 4th Great Grandparents to Douglas Lloyd Buchholz. So, IF Sarah Pilsbury (Sawyer) Woodward was alleged a "full-blooded" Indian, then so was her sister Mary Hawley (Sawyer) Woodward.thanks to devine intervention and his daughter Carol Howard, this chart was again secured and cherished for future generations of the family. According to this branch of the Woodward descendants, Charles Emery Brown "story" NOT PROOF he always told about the Indian heritage to his children was that his Great Great Grandmother, a full blood Blackfoot Indian, came from Montana. Carol Howard, his daughter, has not found anything written to verify her father's story. She does have a heavy rock, that her father said is Iron Ore, that this alleged full-blooded Blackfoot Indian woman brought with her. A HEAVY ROCK (!) IS NOT PROOF. But there is also MORE to this "story" and MUCH MORE about the oral history NOT PROOF in the various Woodward or Woodard descendant branches of the family than I can explain here, documentarily or orally. Whether they REALLY were alleged Abenaki, Mohawk, or Blackfoot, or Algonquin remains a question as yet to be definitively answered. THEN WHY DOES DOUGLAS REPRESENT HIMSELF AS ABENAKI? LIAR.
Document 03: Anyway, Lillian and her sister Ivah went to Groveton, N.H. and met up with "Tinker" Cass and he provided the information that his grandmother Flora Ellah Woodward was "from a family in the Magog District of Quebec, Canada (just over the Line) and that she lived among the Indians in their tepee's; and that she was part Indian herself. Avery said back then many whites and Indians intermarried and lived together in "tribes??" GRANDMA SAID SO STORY
Was Flora Ellah (nee: Woodward) Elliott-Cass-Woodward actually "Abenaki," or was she "Blackfoot", or "Algonquin", or "Mohawk", or simply "White"? When she married the documentation indicated "White" and also when she died January 23, 1935 in Stratford, N.H. it says "White" on the Death Record Certificate. Her son James Henry Cass Sr.'s Marriage Certificate(s), and his children's Birth Certificates all say "White", and when his son Thomas James Cass was born (as well as the Vital Records of his siblings) the records indicate "White" as well. Yet when Thomas James Cass died October 16, 1996, for Ancestry on the Certificate of Death, it shows "English/Indian" but under Race it show's "White". SELF IDENTIFICATION, NOT PROOF.
Document 04: Elizabeth "Beth Ann (nee: Covell) Libby-Bean of Portland, Maine at the time she was doing this genealogical research, created this document NOT PROOF(from numerous other source documents, photographs and interviews with relatives, including the typed letters. MADE UP DOCUMENTS. Bean's mother Elizabeth May (nee: Cass) Covell - Arsenault of Groveton, Coos County, New Hampshire (whose brother was Thomas James Cass) also documentarily and in audio-interview's stated that Flora Ellah Woodward had identified herself as being "Abenaki". SAYING SO DOESN'T MAKE ONE ABENAKI,DOES IT?
Document 05: Letter dated January 18, 2002 from Wayne Gilchrist Chamberlain........This letter was sent to me, under my 2nd adoptive legal name of Mark Douglas Leckie.he was elderly, and had no way of verifying any of the information documentarily due to his age, and that of his relatives having passed away. Yet, he remembered that Alfaratta Angeline (nee: Woodard) Chamberlain was allegedly said by Wayne Jr.'s father "that his mother Alfaratta was Penobscot, or "Abbernockiee". Based on the spelling of Abbernockiee, and that the elderly man Wayne, was residing in Hemet, CA at the time of my inquiry and my recieving his letter of reply, I strongly suspect that latter Native indentification of the ancestor(s) to be possibly more correct than the former. NOT PROOF. ANOTHER GRANDMA SAID SO STORY.
Document 06: after finding these Laurentian Alliance of Metis Membership Cards of their mother's and her father; etc, way before I even knew that these Woodward/Woodard/Heath descendants even existed in Quebec and Ontario! Their mother Ella Sarah Ruth was in a 1999-2000 Women's Metis Calendar identified as a Metis Elder woman, wherein she stated, that her mother Sarah Jane (nee: Woodward or Woodard) Heath was "Algonquin" Indian, and her father Albert Anson Heath was "Mohawk". Whether these "tribal identifiers" regarding being allegedly "Abenakis"/ "Blackfoot"/"Metis"/"Mohawk"/"Coos"in our Woodward Woodard ancestor's descendant's branches of the family were accurate and definitive I do not know. Ella (Heath) Hamilton even went so far as to create a genealogical journal NOT PROOF of sorts (of which I have a duplicate of), in which were photographs of Metallak's grave in Colebrook, New Hampshire and the road-side monument sign as well when she took to trying to find out more about the New Hampshire relatives and ancestors. She said that the family was alleged related to Metallak, because she said her family was "Abenaki". A PICTURE OF SOMEBODY'S GRAVE AND A STORY PROVES NOTHING.
Is my ancestral connections to the "Abenaki Ancestors" real or an illusion/ distortion/ delusion? GOOD QUESTION YOU DO NOT KNOW REALITY. I often question my ancestors and myself on this all the time. The answer is honestly that I don't know, but I sure as heck am not going around with NOTHING in my hand documentation-wise IF I were to decide to step in front of the Vermont or N.H. Governor/or Legislature, when I do say I am an Abenaki descendant; nor am I pretending that a DNA Test result is going to make me into an "Abenaki"(A DNA TEST IS OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO WORK IF YOUR DNA IS NOT A MATCH WITH YOUR FATHER OR GRANDFATHER IS IT?) either I also want to make it very clear that I am in possession of much more documentary information regarding my ancestors, and both oral audio taped interviews and photographically speaking too.(OHHH, YOU GOT PICTURES? AS YOU SAID YOURSELF, PICTURES PROVE NOTHING)
AS DOUGLAS SAYS "DO THE MATH".
HE REPRESENTS HIMSELF AS "ABENAKI" TO THE PUBLIC AS PER HIS LETTERS TO THE EDITOR, GENEALOGY SITES AND ON LINE. HE PERFORMS SWEAT LODGES REPRESENTING HIMSELF AS ABENAKI.
THEN WHEN QUESTIONED FOR PROOF OF ABENAKI LINEAGE, HE HAS NOTHING.
WHEN YOU BOIL IT ALL DOWN AND TAKE OUT THE WHO BEGAT WHO LINES, THERE IS NOTHING THERE THAT OBJECTIVELY PROVES ABENAKI HERITAGE. ORAL HISTORY, GRANDMA SAYS SO STORIES, PICTURES AND A BIG ROCK PROVE NOTHING. NOT ONE DOCUMENT THAT SAYS "ABENAKI". AS HE SAYS, HAVING A BLACKFOOT, METIS OR HURON IN YOUR GENEALOGY DOESN'T MAKE ONE ABENAKI. THOSE FINGERS HE IS POINTING AT OTHERS, NEED TO POINT RIGHT BACK AT HIMSELF.
IF HE LIES ABOUT ONE THING, ANYTHING ELSE HE SAYS MAY ALSO BE A LIE. IT SPEAKS TO HIS CHARACTER. IF HE WOULD LIE ABOUT ONE THING, HE WOULD LIE ABOUT ANOTHER.
Tuesday, November 17, 2009
On this "other" blog called "Abenaki Pride: Setting the Record Straight" "Anonymous" writes, "so where is Douglas Lloyd Buchholz's proof that he is Abenaki?" He points fingers at everyone else, but I have yet to see ANY document that indicates "Abenaki" posted by him about his own genealogy. So where is it Douglas? Since he did not come from an Odanak family, according to his own twisted theory, he isn't "Abenaki" either.
Douglas's responses: as he tries to explain........
Document 01: Front Side of Page. Chart hand written NOT PROOF in seemingly Ball Point pen.
Obviously this document/genealogical chart was created from "memory" NOT PROOF.. Notice that inbetween Aidrias Parker Woodward and his wife, with an arrow pointing to Parker's wife, it indicates, that his wife was allegedly a "Full-Blooded Indian". Sarah Pilsbury Sawyer and her husband Parker were brother and sister to Royal William Woodward and his wife Mary Hawley (nee: Sawyer). Royal and Mary were 4th Great Grandparents to Douglas Lloyd Buchholz. So, IF Sarah Pilsbury (Sawyer) Woodward was alleged a "full-blooded" Indian, then so was her sister Mary Hawley (Sawyer) Woodward.thanks to devine intervention and his daughter Carol Howard, this chart was again secured and cherished for future generations of the family. According to this branch of the Woodward descendants, Charles Emery Brown "story" NOT PROOF he always told about the Indian heritage to his children was that his Great Great Grandmother, a full blood Blackfoot Indian, came from Montana. Carol Howard, his daughter, has not found anything written to verify her father's story. She does have a heavy rock, that her father said is Iron Ore, that this alleged full-blooded Blackfoot Indian woman brought with her. A HEAVY ROCK (!) IS NOT PROOF. But there is also MORE to this "story" and MUCH MORE about the oral history NOT PROOF in the various Woodward or Woodard descendant branches of the family than I can explain here, documentarily or orally. Whether they REALLY were alleged Abenaki, Mohawk, or Blackfoot, or Algonquin remains a question as yet to be definitively answered. THEN WHY DOES DOUGLAS REPRESENT HIMSELF AS ABENAKI? LIAR.
Document 03: Anyway, Lillian and her sister Ivah went to Groveton, N.H. and met up with "Tinker" Cass and he provided the information that his grandmother Flora Ellah Woodward was "from a family in the Magog District of Quebec, Canada (just over the Line) and that she lived among the Indians in their tepee's; and that she was part Indian herself. Avery said back then many whites and Indians intermarried and lived together in "tribes??" GRANDMA SAID SO STORY
Was Flora Ellah (nee: Woodward) Elliott-Cass-Woodward actually "Abenaki," or was she "Blackfoot", or "Algonquin", or "Mohawk", or simply "White"? When she married the documentation indicated "White" and also when she died January 23, 1935 in Stratford, N.H. it says "White" on the Death Record Certificate. Her son James Henry Cass Sr.'s Marriage Certificate(s), and his children's Birth Certificates all say "White", and when his son Thomas James Cass was born (as well as the Vital Records of his siblings) the records indicate "White" as well. Yet when Thomas James Cass died October 16, 1996, for Ancestry on the Certificate of Death, it shows "English/Indian" but under Race it show's "White". SELF IDENTIFICATION, NOT PROOF.
Document 04: Elizabeth "Beth Ann (nee: Covell) Libby-Bean of Portland, Maine at the time she was doing this genealogical research, created this document NOT PROOF(from numerous other source documents, photographs and interviews with relatives, including the typed letters. MADE UP DOCUMENTS. Bean's mother Elizabeth May (nee: Cass) Covell - Arsenault of Groveton, Coos County, New Hampshire (whose brother was Thomas James Cass) also documentarily and in audio-interview's stated that Flora Ellah Woodward had identified herself as being "Abenaki". SAYING SO DOESN'T MAKE ONE ABENAKI,DOES IT?
Document 05: Letter dated January 18, 2002 from Wayne Gilchrist Chamberlain........This letter was sent to me, under my 2nd adoptive legal name of Mark Douglas Leckie.he was elderly, and had no way of verifying any of the information documentarily due to his age, and that of his relatives having passed away. Yet, he remembered that Alfaratta Angeline (nee: Woodard) Chamberlain was allegedly said by Wayne Jr.'s father "that his mother Alfaratta was Penobscot, or "Abbernockiee". Based on the spelling of Abbernockiee, and that the elderly man Wayne, was residing in Hemet, CA at the time of my inquiry and my recieving his letter of reply, I strongly suspect that latter Native indentification of the ancestor(s) to be possibly more correct than the former. NOT PROOF. ANOTHER GRANDMA SAID SO STORY.
Document 06: after finding these Laurentian Alliance of Metis Membership Cards of their mother's and her father; etc, way before I even knew that these Woodward/Woodard/Heath descendants even existed in Quebec and Ontario! Their mother Ella Sarah Ruth was in a 1999-2000 Women's Metis Calendar identified as a Metis Elder woman, wherein she stated, that her mother Sarah Jane (nee: Woodward or Woodard) Heath was "Algonquin" Indian, and her father Albert Anson Heath was "Mohawk". Whether these "tribal identifiers" regarding being allegedly "Abenakis"/ "Blackfoot"/"Metis"/"Mohawk"/"Coos"in our Woodward Woodard ancestor's descendant's branches of the family were accurate and definitive I do not know. Ella (Heath) Hamilton even went so far as to create a genealogical journal NOT PROOF of sorts (of which I have a duplicate of), in which were photographs of Metallak's grave in Colebrook, New Hampshire and the road-side monument sign as well when she took to trying to find out more about the New Hampshire relatives and ancestors. She said that the family was alleged related to Metallak, because she said her family was "Abenaki". A PICTURE OF SOMEBODY'S GRAVE AND A STORY PROVES NOTHING.
Is my ancestral connections to the "Abenaki Ancestors" real or an illusion/ distortion/ delusion? GOOD QUESTION YOU DO NOT KNOW REALITY. I often question my ancestors and myself on this all the time. The answer is honestly that I don't know, but I sure as heck am not going around with NOTHING in my hand documentation-wise IF I were to decide to step in front of the Vermont or N.H. Governor/or Legislature, when I do say I am an Abenaki descendant; nor am I pretending that a DNA Test result is going to make me into an "Abenaki"(A DNA TEST IS OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO WORK IF YOUR DNA IS NOT A MATCH WITH YOUR FATHER OR GRANDFATHER IS IT?) either I also want to make it very clear that I am in possession of much more documentary information regarding my ancestors, and both oral audio taped interviews and photographically speaking too.(OHHH, YOU GOT PICTURES? AS YOU SAID YOURSELF, PICTURES PROVE NOTHING)
AS DOUGLAS SAYS "DO THE MATH".
HE REPRESENTS HIMSELF AS "ABENAKI" TO THE PUBLIC AS PER HIS LETTERS TO THE EDITOR, GENEALOGY SITES AND ON LINE. HE PERFORMS SWEAT LODGES REPRESENTING HIMSELF AS ABENAKI.
THEN WHEN QUESTIONED FOR PROOF OF ABENAKI LINEAGE, HE HAS NOTHING.
WHEN YOU BOIL IT ALL DOWN AND TAKE OUT THE WHO BEGAT WHO LINES, THERE IS NOTHING THERE THAT OBJECTIVELY PROVES ABENAKI HERITAGE. ORAL HISTORY, GRANDMA SAYS SO STORIES, PICTURES AND A BIG ROCK PROVE NOTHING. NOT ONE DOCUMENT THAT SAYS "ABENAKI". AS HE SAYS, HAVING A BLACKFOOT, METIS OR HURON IN YOUR GENEALOGY DOESN'T MAKE ONE ABENAKI. THOSE FINGERS HE IS POINTING AT OTHERS, NEED TO POINT RIGHT BACK AT HIMSELF.
IF HE LIES ABOUT ONE THING, ANYTHING ELSE HE SAYS MAY ALSO BE A LIE. IT SPEAKS TO HIS CHARACTER. IF HE WOULD LIE ABOUT ONE THING, HE WOULD LIE ABOUT ANOTHER.
Sunday
Sunday, Nov 23 at 4:04 AM Douglas Lloyd Buchholz wrote ...
Mr. Benoit, what is your agenda in trying to imply that I don't have the evidence to show that I am an Abenaki descendant. LIAR. PROVE IT.
Sunday, Nov 23 at 3:59 AM Douglas Lloyd Buchholz wrote ...
Apparently Mr. J. Benoit your just not reasonable or open minded about anything. I already told you I do have evidence paperwork that does SHOW ABENAKI on those documents LIAR . PROVE IT.
Thursday, Oct 30 at 8:29 PM Douglas Lloyd Buchholz wrote ...
Mr. C. Barlow assumes that because my surname is Buchholz that I am demanding Abenakis to PROVE who they are. .........
By the way I'm Abenaki LIAR . PROVE IT.
HE HAS PUBLICALLY STATED TO NEWSPAPERS AND PEOPLE THAT HE IS ABENAKI.
Douglas Lloyd Buchholz Says:
December 13th, 2007 at 10:26 am
My genealogical endeavors started years ago. A lady called me up one day, said she wanted to know if I was a direct male descendant of her husband’s surname. Sadly, I told her my mother got in the way. But my Uncle was still alive.
Through a DNA co. we found out the markers didn’t match. Through a DNA co. Then I began the work on my own father’s father through a DNA company thinking that if I got a son of the man listed on my father’s birth cert. and a direct male descendant of his mother’s 2nd husband’s relatives such as his nephew I would finally know who was my father’s father. WRONG.
I tested both men and got their markers from a DNA Co. Then I did my own YDNA test. No match at all.
So what this means is that perhaps I am not my father’s son or that perhaps my father is not related to either man. Or perhaps this DNA testing co. made a serious error. They talk as if they NEVER make any errors or that it is so remote to happen that my test couldn’t have been screwed up.
So, now I am testing my father to hopefully see if we are his genetic son’s or not.
Mr. Benoit, what is your agenda in trying to imply that I don't have the evidence to show that I am an Abenaki descendant. LIAR. PROVE IT.
Sunday, Nov 23 at 3:59 AM Douglas Lloyd Buchholz wrote ...
Apparently Mr. J. Benoit your just not reasonable or open minded about anything. I already told you I do have evidence paperwork that does SHOW ABENAKI on those documents LIAR . PROVE IT.
Thursday, Oct 30 at 8:29 PM Douglas Lloyd Buchholz wrote ...
Mr. C. Barlow assumes that because my surname is Buchholz that I am demanding Abenakis to PROVE who they are. .........
By the way I'm Abenaki LIAR . PROVE IT.
HE HAS PUBLICALLY STATED TO NEWSPAPERS AND PEOPLE THAT HE IS ABENAKI.
WHY DOES HE SAY HE IS ABENAKI WHEN HE CAN'T PROVE IT? HE IS A LIAR. IN ALL HIS YEARS OF LOOKING , HE HAS NOT PROVIDED ONE DOCUMENT THAT SAYS ABENAKI ON IT.
NO ABENAKI COMMUNITY WANTS HIM OR ACKNOWLEDGES HIM AS ABENAKI.
Douglas Lloyd Buchholz Says:
December 13th, 2007 at 10:26 am
My genealogical endeavors started years ago. A lady called me up one day, said she wanted to know if I was a direct male descendant of her husband’s surname. Sadly, I told her my mother got in the way. But my Uncle was still alive.
Through a DNA co. we found out the markers didn’t match. Through a DNA co. Then I began the work on my own father’s father through a DNA company thinking that if I got a son of the man listed on my father’s birth cert. and a direct male descendant of his mother’s 2nd husband’s relatives such as his nephew I would finally know who was my father’s father. WRONG.
I tested both men and got their markers from a DNA Co. Then I did my own YDNA test. No match at all.
So what this means is that perhaps I am not my father’s son or that perhaps my father is not related to either man. Or perhaps this DNA testing co. made a serious error. They talk as if they NEVER make any errors or that it is so remote to happen that my test couldn’t have been screwed up.
So, now I am testing my father to hopefully see if we are his genetic son’s or not.
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